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Dangerous incident today - tires

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So, took the HC today. Gassed it up, added Octanium to the tank of 93. Headed to client's house where work is underway. On way back from there, ran over what looked like some flattened and coiled shipping baling strip, threw it up in the air behind the car (no way to miss it). Did not touch the body; did not look particularly sharp. About 3 miles later, get on the Interstate on ramp and swing out passed a guy in a truck (and a semi ahead of him) and an Acura SUV coming up behind like a bat out of hell, got on it while signalling. Looked down and we're in triple digits, get off the accelerator and as the speedo hits the 88-90 area loud thumping / smacking starts up front on the right. Sounded like the tire had picked something up. Get over to far right lane, sound goes away. Then reappears for a few seconds. Have to go nearly a mile to next exit, but the refinery. Cross over the bridge and into the IUOE parking lot. Get out, with the wheel cut. Initially looks great (the fronts are still the OEM all-seasons) but when I examine the inside of the tire, there is a 1.5" strip torn away down the belts. Will post photos later.

Get to my tire shop and my buddy there reports his Vettes have had the same hard core accelerated tire wear because of the large amount of camber the manufacturers design into the system for enhanced handling. He eventually had to go with non-standard specs to get his tires to last a reasonable amount of time. Deciding whether to buy more OEM AS's because they've always been good in the wet (swap them on the rears for trips, putting 20x11 DR away). Looks to me like those are the best bang for the buck (and I need to maximize tire life and wet performance on the front). Any thoughts?
 
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Supplemental - picked up the other OEM wheels and tires from the garage and swapped one on to the front for now. All show what is in my opinion excessive wear on the insides. Chunks of tread seemingly torn out.

On a sideline, noticed that one set of the OEM have some minor curb rash (very minor) but it still disappoints me. I suspect it was handling at the tire shop, but they treat me so well there (and there is no proof) that its not worth bringing up.
 
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Did you look at the tire...and with the proper inflection say......I am gravely disappointed......
 

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Those shipping straps all have some sort of metal clasp/fastener to hold them together. Could be it cut the tire & as the tire heated up + high speed passing caused a bit to chunk off.
Just seems an odd coincidence it would fail 'out of the blue' right after the strap encounter.
 
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Did you look at the tire...and with the proper inflection say......I am gravely disappointed......
I sent it to its room without supper. Does that count?
 
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I may post up some of the other OEM tires so folks can see what I am referring to with the chunks missing, if that would be useful.
 

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Damn !! Looks like someone mounted it on a lathe & took a bit to it !
 

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I sent it to its room without supper. Does that count?
Only if you made it stand in the corner for 30 minutes and listened with pleasure to it cry beforehand :p

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Deciding whether to buy more OEM AS's because they've always been good in the wet (swap them on the rears for trips, putting 20x11 DR away). Looks to me like those are the best bang for the buck
Wet performance was the #1 reason I got rid of the OEM AS. They are terrible. If you need a good AS with reasonable tread wear, check out Conti DWS06s.

BTW- Very glad there was no catastrophic failure at speed during this incident and no injuries.
 
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Supplemental - picked up the other OEM wheels and tires from the garage and swapped one on to the front for now. All show what is in my opinion excessive wear on the insides. Chunks of tread seemingly torn out.

On a sideline, noticed that one set of the OEM have some minor curb rash (very minor) but it still disappoints me. I suspect it was handling at the tire shop, but they treat me so well there (and there is no proof) that its not worth bringing up.
Just curious...had you avoided the road debris...would there still have been this type of tire failure..or would it be a case of unusual wear:unsure:
 

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I see no mention of a brand name...
 

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I see no mention of a brand name...
First post quote "Initially looks great (the fronts are still the OEM all-seasons) but when I examine the inside of the tire, there is a 1.5" strip torn away down the belts. Will post photos later"
 

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Next time stretch for new tires instead of retreads. [histerical]
 

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Next time stretch for new tires instead of retreads. [histerical]
Funny thing..be it a motorcycle..car or truck...I never run marginal rubber..replace em even when service shops say they have life left...
 

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That inside shoulder wear only indicates that you don't take curves and corners anywhere near fast enough.
 
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Just curious...had you avoided the road debris...would there still have been this type of tire failure..or would it be a case of unusual wear:unsure:
That's the key question. And there is no obvious answer, or way to ascertain. And I neglected to say in the original posting that the coiled strap went down the right side of the car. Narrow two lane country road with head to head traffic and 6 to 8 inch drop off on the side. You pays your money and yous takes your chances.
 

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