The sky is falling!

[Markp]

And the band plays on, no quicker car being offered by FCA, and here we are, the RE is a pale comparison, lets play this out and see what is what.

I wouldn't say a pale comparison. Yes the Demon is faster but not by much. Run your Demon without race gas and run 20" wheels on the front and tell me what time you run. I just went to a Demon event they were a tenth faster then the Redeyes. Now to be fair the track prep was not great at we were at 3000DA and I realize with great prep and good conditions that is where the Demons transbrake and suspension really shines. Redeyes will never be Demons but they are damn close.

 

[cole3986]

You are just not getting it, not talking about real life, I am referring to the Guiness records the car has, the RE has none, not numbered, shall I continue?

 

[Markp]

You are just not getting it, not talking about real life, I am referring to the Guiness records the car has, the RE has none, not numbered, shall I continue?

Oh yes 100% the Demon has all the records and is limited. Yes in that regard I guess it is a pale comparison.

 

[cole3986]

If any modern Mopar will appreciate it is the Demon, it may not appreciate, lets see.Buy a RE, guaranteed depreciation.

 

[Hickster]

Yes please do, my next car, soon, may be a RE.

 

[cole3986]

RE is awesome, I am referring to resale value, if you guys think they are in the same league, you are smoking crack.

 

[Hickster]

Crack is out of my league. Still stuck on the shrooms. I agree,, they are built for 2 different reasons. I am not a track person,but like to get the best for the $$ My H/C is an intro to the product of what is now. But may upgrade to the RE in a year. See what they have coming out, but for me,, not a demon. Love to watch and listen but not for my cup of tea pot. Or pot of tea. Another shroom and Street Outlaws.

 

[Markp]

RE is awesome, I am referring to resale value, if you guys think they are in the same league, you are smoking crack.

Yes the Demon will hold resale value better then a RE but the Demon is not immune to depreciation. All depends on what the market does obviously. The one thing that hurts the Demon from really appreciating is that everyone thinks it will be worth a fortune so you have a ton of Demons that are low low miles in pristine condition.

Same kind of thing happened to the 1970 AAR Cuda's and 1970 Challenger T/As. Both were one year only cars. Street version of the trans am race car. First muscle car with staggered wheels. Side exhaust, suitcase hood. They made 2500 and everyone thought they were special so they babied most of them. There are right now 1900 still around in the T/A registry. If they were driven to the ground prices would be higher. Looks like what is happening to the Demons. The less survivors the rarer and more they go up in value. It is almost better if people think they won't be worth anything and just drive the piss out of them then the people who do have pristine Demons will really make some money one day. We are all just guessing I hope I am alive in 30 years to have this conversation again. Either way I love the Demons and hope to have one in my garage one day...at a fair price hopefully lol.

 

[cole3986]

The 1970 AAR is not in the same league, this is real simple, if the Demon does not appreciate, everything produced in the modern era from FCA will depreciate. Should we discuss the differences between the 1970 AAR and the Demon? No comparison, you are reaching from a bad position, IMO. If we need to go down this road, lets do it.

 

[Markp]

The 1970 AAR is not in the same league, this is real simple, if the Demon does not appreciate, everything produced in the modern era from FCA will depreciate. Should we discuss the differences between the 1970 AAR and the Demon? No comparison, you are reaching from a bad position, IMO. If we need to go down this road, lets do it.

I am using the AARs and T/As as a comparison to show you what can happen if everyone thinks like you do. They won't go up as much as they really should. I am talking long term here. I am not reaching I am explaining that if you build 3300 cars even if you think they are special and 3000 of them are literally still pristine in the future how much do you think they will be worth? Less then if everyone didn't think they were special and put miles on them and there are only a few hundred in pristine condition or 50 in pristine condition. Get what I am saying. Every time someone crashes and writes off a Demon you car is worth more. I am not arguing with you that Demons won't appreciate I am saying they will appreciate even more if they were not all bubble wrapped.

 

[Hickster]

Deposit the caffeine and lets get back to the 440 6 pack. The big 3 1/2 are going to chase these products down the road for more than I am going to be around. Very surprised at the stang 550 GT. Damn.

 

[cole3986]

I am using the AARs and T/As as a comparison to show you what can happen if everyone thinks like you do. They won't go up as much as they really should. I am talking long term here. I am not reaching I am explaining that if you build 3300 cars even if you think they are special and 3000 of them are literally still pristine in the future how much do you think they will be worth? Less then if everyone didn't think they were special and put miles on them and there are only a few hundred in pristine condition or 50 in pristine condition. Get what I am saying.

Ok, I guess we need to do this, the AAR was not top dog, the top dog was a 426 Hemi. The AAR was created for a race class. It was all about a race class and the motor was de-stroked to 304 cubic inches, it was a track car, not a drag car. It did lack luster in the series, hence, no one cars, IMO.

If you want to compare the cars, then compare top dog to top dog, what is the worth of a 1970 or 1971 hemi cuda? There is a reason you went with the AAR, you know the truth. What is the value of a 1970 hemi cuda? Boom

 

[cole3986]

Deposit the caffeine and lets get back to the 440 6 pack. The big 3 1/2 are going to chase these products down the road for more than I am going to be around. Very surprised at the stang 550 GT. Damn.

Hickster,

I just do not understand many or your posts, therefore, I do not respond. I try to understand, read them many times. My writing is not good, but your stuff is hmmmmm

 

[Chevyave]

The 1970 AAR is not in the same league, this is real simple, if the Demon does not appreciate, everything produced in the modern era from FCA will depreciate. Should we discuss the differences between the 1970 AAR and the Demon? No comparison, you are reaching from a bad position, IMO. If we need to go down this road, lets do it.

No offense, but if you are claiming a Demon is a wise investment you are clueless. The reason they are coming back to reality is the speculators have moved on and within a couple of years they will be nothing more than a unique used car. Ask those that paid 120K plus if they would make that mistake twice. I doubt it. Cars are not an investment and determining the next car to quickly gain favor and appreciate while you actually own it would be comparable to winning the lottery. I purchased a Redeye because I was out the door at 80K for a vehicle that is almost identical to a Demon. Difference is I still have 30-40K in my pocket and I will guarentee my 40K invested plus the resale value of my Redeye will always be worth more than your Demon.

 

[Markp]

Ok, I guess we need to do this, the AAR was not top dog, the top dog was a 426 Hemi. The AAR was created for a race class. It was all about a race class and the motor was de-stroked to 304 cubic inches, it was a track car, not a drag car. It did lack luster in the series, hence, no one cars, IMO.

If you want to compare the cars, then compare top dog to top dog, what is the worth of a 1970 or 1971 hemi cuda? There is a reason you went with the AAR, you know the truth. What is the value of a 1970 hemi cuda? Boom

Your not getting my point top dog. The percentage of survivors is less in 426 hemi's and there were less produced then T/As. I am not saying a T/A or AAR should be worth more then a 426 hemi Cuda. What I am saying is the Demon will be worth much more if less are pristine long term. If you want your Demon to be worth even more in the future then you should be telling everyone to drive the piss out of them and that there great winter cars and keep yours in the bubble.

 

[cole3986]

No offense, but if you are claiming a Demon is a wise investment you are clueless. The reason they are coming back to reality is the speculators have moved on and within a couple of years they will be nothing more than a unique used car. Ask those that paid 120K plus if they would make that mistake twice. I doubt it. Cars are not an investment and determining the next car to quickly gain favor and appreciate while you actually own it would be comparable to winning the lottery. I purchased a Redeye because I was out the door at 80K for a vehicle that is almost identical to a Demon. Difference is I still have 30-40K in my pocket and I will guarentee my 40K invested plus the resale value of my Redeye will always be worth more than your Demon.

That is a joke, not saying it is a wise investment, simply saying it will retain its value better than anything produced by FCA in the last 10 years. Your RE will depreciate faster than a Demon (if a Demon does depreciates). You are out of the door at 80K, I am out of the door at 95K, who did better?

I have 1 of 1 Demon, you think you RE is worth more? What a joke

 

[Hickster]

Well Mr Cole,
I am sure it is from breathing too much nitrous from leaking bottles in the cabin. Cars not ships. What my point has been here is the cars can hold a value to a person whom has a memory to hold on to. Like my 64 Barracuda, ex father in laws trans am 6.6, and Road Runner, Gto's. The price is in the person's head of the $$ to be spent.. I understand where you are coming from and going. And it is interesting to me cause I may talk a bit different but read between the lines and you will get it. Bare with me Mr Cole and I will bring you around. Racing is racing and the talk could be from a different generation but the out come is the same,,, winner wins. Hang with me.

 

[cole3986]

Your not getting my point top dog. The percentage of survivors is less in 426 hemi's and there were less produced then T/As. I am not saying a T/A or AAR should be worth more then a 426 hemi Cuda. What I am saying is the Demon will be worth much more if less are pristine long term. If you want your Demon to be worth even more in the future then you should be telling everyone to drive the piss out of them and that there great winter cars and keep yours in the bubble.

Ok, I am not sure of the numbers, my point is to not compare AAR to a Demon. Why compare it to a duster or a valiant?

 

[Markp]

Well Mr Cole,
I am sure it is from breathing too much nitrous from leaking bottles in the cabin. Cars not ships. What my point has been here is the cars can hold a value to a person whom has a memory to hold on to. Like my 64 Barracuda, ex father in laws trans am 6.6, and Road Runner, Gto's. The price is in the person's head of the $$ to be spent.. I understand where you are coming from and going. And it is interesting to me cause I may talk a bit different but read between the lines and you will get it. Bare with me Mr Cole and I will bring you around. Racing is racing and the talk could be from a different generation but the out come is the same,,, winner wins. Hang with me.

This is the only post you have written that I have ever understood.

 

[1971demon]

Hickster,

I just do not understand many or your posts, therefore, I do not respond. I try to understand, read them many times. My writing is not good, but your stuff is hmmmmm

WTF Cole.....bout time....I can do 3 languages...(and Latin)...Hickster...that's interplanetary stuff...Hunter says he gets it...its Hick...my guess ole Hickster had one too many of those mail order brides try to poison his dinner...