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This is not sick week. His 5 sec car would not make the rules.
I'm sure that there's a few that would unless the rules are mega tight. They run 7s & 8s.
 


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And one key rule your missing must be a gen 3 hemi, ls Lt or coyote
I 100% missed that. Many are coyotes and lsx.

Mopars didn't do a great showing at either Sick Week or Drag Week this year. The few guys I talked to at Drag Week were hellcat rookies. I was helping them with their settings and launch.
 


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This is not sick week. His 5 sec car would not make the rules.
What are the rules? Seems like a pretty basic question. I can give you numerous examples of "street cars" that are really quick. Cleetus el camino ran 6.6 a few years ago in imports versus the world and he drives that car everywhere. I do believe it is a LS motor build by Steve Morris (but I haven't kept up with it so the information maybe a little dated- name changed since I had it wrong).

The quickest gen 3 hemi is Goss which his challenger runs 6.6 or so and that is not a street car (he used to compete in X275 which is 1/8 mile racing) so the quarter mile time is a little a old.

What is Reaper going to do, make the class a 9.0 bracket race or allow all the safety equipment be used?
 


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I 100% missed that. Many are coyotes and lsx.

Mopars didn't do a great showing at either Sick Week or Drag Week this year. The few guys I talked to at Drag Week were hellcat rookies. I was helping them with their settings and launch.
The mopars are relatively slow, Tom Bailey built a Durango with a whipple gen 3 hemi that lifted the head and never did anything (besides his best intentions). The Durango has a 6.5 cert. cage that can accomodate 4 passengers.
 


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What are the rules? Seems like a pretty basic question. I can give you numerous examples of "street cars" that are really quick. Cleetus el camino ran 6.6 a few years ago in imports versus the world and he drives that car everywhere. I do believe it is a LS motor build by Steve White (but I haven't kept up with it so the information maybe a little dated).

The quickest gen 3 hemi is Goss which his challenger runs 6.6 or so and that is not a street car (he used to compete in X275 which is 1/8 mile racing) so the quarter mile time is a little a old.

What is Reaper going to do, make the class a 9.0 bracket race or allow all the safety equipment be used?
Cleetus has the Steve Morris SMX engine now since he kept blowing up the ls motors.
 


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And one key rule your missing must be a gen 3 hemi, ls Lt or coyote
I like this idea....just going to have to be real creative and strict with the rules. Tire makes and sizes, power adders and NOS.
 


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The mopars are relatively slow, Tom Bailey built a Durango with a whipple gen 3 hemi that lifted the head and never did anything (besides his best intentions). The Durango has a 6.5 cert. cage that can accomodate 4 passengers.
The 2nd engine is out now. Probably at Steve Morris getting rebuilt. It has been disappointment.
 


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Cleetus has the Steve Morris SMX engine now since he kept blowing up the ls motors.
Thanks for the correction, I really don't follow him but his El Camino is stupid quick street car.
 


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What are the rules? Seems like a pretty basic question. I can give you numerous examples of "street cars" that are really quick. Cleetus el camino ran 6.6 a few years ago in imports versus the world and he drives that car everywhere. I do believe it is a LS motor build by Steve White (but I haven't kept up with it so the information maybe a little dated).

The quickest gen 3 hemi is Goss which his challenger runs 6.6 or so and that is not a street car (he used to compete in X275 which is 1/8 mile racing) so the quarter mile time is a little a old.

What is Reaper going to do, make the class a 9.0 bracket race or allow all the safety equipment be used?
At the end of the day I would just say fuck it if I was him and forget about it. I see how it is on here imagine what he has off his facebook and you tube. You guys miss the point of having FUN. I drive 4.5 hours each way just to hang with Jon and his family and Jim why because I enjoy myself.
 


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At the end of the day I would just say fuck it if I was him and forget about it. I see how it is on here imagine what he has off his facebook and you tube. You guys miss the point of having FUN. I drive 4.5 hours each way just to hang with Jon and his family and Jim why because I enjoy myself.
I'm just curious about the rules. Not that I'm going to be competing but I just like to know.

The gen 3 part is all new to me.
 


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I'm just curious about the rules. Not that I'm going to be competing but I just like to know.

The gen 3 part is all new to me.
You got to enter!
 


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I can't. An old neck injury where it was broken has come back. I could become permanently paralyzed if I hit something hard. The spinal cord has narrowed.
 


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At the end of the day I would just say fuck it if I was him and forget about it. I see how it is on here imagine what he has off his facebook and you tube. You guys miss the point of having FUN. I drive 4.5 hours each way just to hang with Jon and his family and Jim why because I enjoy myself.
This is how it is everywhere and why there is a MSHS series. The Gen 3 stuff is generally too slow to compete in other events with the exception of heavy weight class (if it is offered).

I wouldn't drive hours to an event to get my ass drug. Better off going to hellcat races with fellow owners and having fun, but that is just me.
 


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This is how it is everywhere and why there is a MSHS series. The Gen 3 stuff is generally too slow to compete in other events with the exception of heavy weight class (if it is offered).

I wouldn't drive hours to an event to get my ass drug. Better off going to hellcat races with fellow owners and having fun, but that is just me.
Personally I didn't want to be limited to MSHS. Far too many great events around Florida and Georgia.
 


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The comments about it being a Fox Body class is right. Lightweight tinker toy of a car that comes with a factory 4-link/straight axle rear. Bush it, change the shocks and springs, spool the 8.8, go with aftermarket axles and a 15” wheel and you have a “street car” that if you try to copy with modern muscle…. it’s a “race car”. LS motor transplant makes 2000hp with turbos. This is an exercise in nonsense. The idea that any modern muscle car in “street” form is going to compete is a laugh. They already have a category for the budgeted people he’s talking about. It’s called bracket racing. I have a friend with a TT LS swapped Fox that is tagged/insured and he actually does drive it on the street. Runs low 4’s in the 1/8 and 7.0 at 200mph in the 1/4. That’s the reality of a heads-up class like he’s suggesting and tail pipes out the back aren’t going to have anything to do with it.
 


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I can't. An old neck injury where it was broken has come back. I could become permanently paralyzed if I hit something hard. The spinal cord has narrowed.
Sorry to hear that Boss
 


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All you have to do is go to any late night car meet here in Florida to see 1500- 2000 horsepower cars that roll race out on the interstate 50-150 mph for big money.

1000 horsepower cars are the slow ones. Barely see a Hellcat unless they're just there to watch.
 


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Ok if min weight is 3600 than what.
 


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Throw some weights in the fox body, steel front end. How much they weight factory?
Ok if min weight is 3600 than what.
 


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3600 is light, no modern muscle car is even close
 




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