Dealer ADMs on the Demon170

[Demon1]

Agree, to the tune of about 40-50% of the production.

I wouldn’t be surprised. I called many small dealerships that didn’t expect or even know they had an allocation until I sent them a screen shot. They said call me back later, to ultimately find out the owner was keeping it personally.

 

[Bobo]

I wouldn’t be surprised. I called many small dealerships that didn’t expect or even know they had an allocation until I sent them a screen shot. They said call me back later, to ultimately find out the owner was keeping it personally.

AND they all get to do it at or under MSRP

 

[BULL]

I wouldn’t be surprised. I called many small dealerships that didn’t expect or even know they had an allocation until I sent them a screen shot. They said call me back later, to ultimately find out the owner was keeping it personally.

Yeah, crap, just crap...

 

[Boris]

They're going to be lucky to build all 3300 at this point.

I want to see a dealer who is bragging they sold them for 100k over then not get one and have to deal with that customer

 

[MikeD1]

You may not buy it but many others are doing so at STEEP ADMs...

wealth is relative. if you are worth 20M, a 250K car is a 25K car to folks worth 2M

For me it's the principle of the thing, if I had Elon's $$ I'd still not give these bastards a dime of ADM !!
You can bet your ass the high rollers like Jay Leno weren't told to call around and see what sort of deal they could snag. Wondering if the 200 'missing' allocations were earmarked right off the top for those guys ?

 

[BULL]

For me it's the principle of the thing, if I had Elon's $$ I'd still not give these bastards a dime of ADM !!
You can bet your ass the high rollers like Jay Leno weren't told to call around and see what sort of deal they could snag. Wondering if the 200 'missing' allocations were earmarked right off the top for those guys ?

You know, I almost hope so, they were going to get one anyway, and if they are (were) effectively removed from the pool in that fashion, it actually cleans things up a bit for us.

 

[Bowtie Guy]

There is a very small group of people that actually want this car & have the finances to afford it
&
Even smaller group that will race it
Most are looking for a quick buck
The dealers are beating the flippers to the punch & screwing the enthusiasts in the process

I have a feeling we are going to see a lot of Auctions at these dealer purchased cars

 

[vortecd]

absolutely. when u KNOW you're dealing with slimebags...

"This Is The Way (tm)"

Yep "this is the way"

 

[Ronin]

I appreciate how @1971demon specifically stated his deal and the dealer doing it for him; it's an excellent example of free advertising...

That works both ways however; if you call a dealer who states an exorbitant markup, drop their name and put them on blast for all to see so no one else wastes their time dealing with them.

No idea how far it might go up the corporate ladder but if @DodgeCares is paying attention and has a dealership's name to go with the claim that a member was told "$250K over sticker" as someone here stated a dealer in the Phoenix/Valley area told them, it might help get the issue addressed and get called them out by corporate...

This whole dynamic is gonna get real interesting here in about 8+ months when dealers are sitting on them. 3K sounds like a low production car but I recall my S55 AMG was one of 438 (?) worldwide IIRC according to the AMG Registry back in the day. Sure, there's massive interest, but just because someone's wealthy doesn't mean they're stupid or careless with money. There's plenty of enthusiasts who will pay whatever it costs and have the money, just as there's as many that will pass and spend their money elsewhere.

Either way, Dodge is done. Soon to go the way of Pontiac, AMC, Plymouth, etc. etc. etc.

 

[1971demon]

You may not buy it but many others are doing so at STEEP ADMs...

wealth is relative. if you are worth 20M, a 250K car is a 25K car to folks worth 2M

I'm just a poor white boy tryin to eek out an honest living...that got very lucky this time... and in 2018

 

[1971demon]

Those of us with the Man-Stick editions have a special place in Heaven.

Except me...my reservation is made..sold my soul along time ago...but I got a ton for it..even in todays money

 

[ButterDaGreat?]

Seems a lot of dealers now aren't taking a final number to get the car, they are taking bids. Hell one called me and was like for their 2 cars, current offers are at $200k for both. I have dozens more just like this today

 

[BULL]

Isn't there laws regulating businesses acting as auction houses without a auction license???

 

[MikeD1]

Seems a lot of dealers now aren't taking a final number to get the car, they are taking bids. Hell one called me and was like for their 2 cars, current offers are at $200k for both. I have dozens more just like this today

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Had this same crap happen to me with several '15 Hellcats. At least the cars were actually at the dealer, but they were swapping them around between locations and had guys bidding on them. I refused to participate, but did note the cars were around for weeks while they (I presume) tried to wring every last $$ they could out of the interested parties.

 

[ButterDaGreat?]

Isn't there laws regulating businesses acting as auction houses without a auction license???

Guess it depends what language they use to get around it? They either say bid or offer. But I got plenty "bids" documented

 

[Boris]

For me it's the principle of the thing, if I had Elon's $$ I'd still not give these bastards a dime of ADM !!
You can bet your ass the high rollers like Jay Leno weren't told to call around and see what sort of deal they could snag. Wondering if the 200 'missing' allocations were earmarked right off the top for those guys ?

If I had Elon's money, I'm not even looking at anything Dodge

 

[Boris]

Seems a lot of dealers now aren't taking a final number to get the car, they are taking bids. Hell one called me and was like for their 2 cars, current offers are at $200k for both. I have dozens more just like this today

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Can we start a list of dealers with insane markups.
Just call them out so others can avoid or just go and buy knowing full well what to expect?

 

[BULL]

Isn't there laws regulating businesses acting as auction houses without a auction license???

State dependent, several states do not require a license, Colorado being one of them.

Only because I stumbled onto while looking, Florida does require a specific auction license. The source I found said many laws are "grey".

 

[MJS73]

You know, I almost hope so, they were going to get one anyway, and if they are (were) effectively removed from the pool in that fashion, it actually cleans things up a bit for us.

But the pool is then smaller...

 

[vortecd]

If I had Elon's money, I'm not even looking at anything Dodge

I would be. Euro trash doesn't interest me