Hellcat Oil Filter

[DavidKFla]

What's interesting about the "XP" versions of the WIX filters is they "open" them up, presumably to allow for greater flow as they get older???

When I saw that, I stopped using the "XP" versions of WIX filters and went back to the normal versions.

How old do you allow them to get?

 

[BULL]

How old do you allow them to get?

LOL, I don't, but I had allowed myself to believe that the XP version was a better filter, if you take the specs at face value, it's not "better", it's "freer flowing"...

I change all of my vehicle at 3K miles, or after a race event in the case of the Hellcat.

 

[jroyk]

Bad memory I guess, I thought there were some 5micron filters on this list, maybe I saw them elsewhere...


https://www.hellcatforum.org/threads/5038041aa-vs-mo-049-vs-04884899ac.10874/page-2#post-245812

Without an efficiency rating, the micron spec is pretty meaningless. 99.9% @ 20 is the best I've seen. This would be something like 50% @ 5-10 microns. (Don't know where the Wix went on the graph.)

 

[BULL]

Without an efficiency rating, the micron spec is pretty meaningless. 99.9% @ 20 is the best I've seen. This would be something like 50% @ 5-10 microns. (Don't know where the Wix went on the graph.)
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The scaling on this graph is a bit misleading...


The vertical axis being only 2%...

 

[DavidKFla]

LOL, I don't, but I had allowed myself to believe that the XP version was a better filter, if you take the specs at face value, it's not "better", it's "freer flowing"...

I change all of my vehicle at 3K miles, or after a race event in the case of the Hellcat.

I use them and I keep them serviced.

 

[Hellcatcfp]

Great thread and information. When I got my car they basically threw in 10 Mopar oil changes (think they were $60 each). I have one left and decided I'm doing the oil changes going forward. Went to local dealer here and they expensed my last Mopar oil change and gave me the oil and filter.


Any issues with oil cooler cover plate removal and reinstall? The tech who always did mine made it look difficult so I'm a little weary. I know brace with wrench while loosening oil cooler plug, etc.

Have a couple more months until oil change just trying to build up my reserves again after the move.

Appreciate all the info.

 

[Hellcatcfp]

Dealer here had no Viper filter...so hopefully can get one in the coming months otherwise have the black one.

 

[BULL]

Great thread and information. When I got my car they basically threw in 10 Mopar oil changes (think they were $60 each). I have one left and decided I'm doing the oil changes going forward. Went to local dealer here and they expensed my last Mopar oil change and gave me the oil and filter.

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Any issues with oil cooler cover plate removal and reinstall? The tech who always did mine made it look difficult so I'm a little weary. I know brace with wrench while loosening oil cooler plug, etc.

Have a couple more months until oil change just trying to build up my reserves again after the move.

Appreciate all the info.

Are you in the new place yet???

Sorry, I feel like I should know this.

 

[jroyk]

Great thread and information. When I got my car they basically threw in 10 Mopar oil changes (think they were $60 each). I have one left and decided I'm doing the oil changes going forward. Went to local dealer here and they expensed my last Mopar oil change and gave me the oil and filter.

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Any issues with oil cooler cover plate removal and reinstall? The tech who always did mine made it look difficult so I'm a little weary. I know brace with wrench while loosening oil cooler plug, etc.

Have a couple more months until oil change just trying to build up my reserves again after the move.

Appreciate all the info.

I only got 5 OCs with mine. The dealer would give me the oil and filters. I’d do the changes and the dealer would write it like they had done it.

If you got the access panel that a member was selling a while back it’s a piece of cake. If you are original, it’s still not hard. You’ll just have like 19 fasteners instead of 8.

 

[drag racer]

did this on mine for oil cooler drain access - saves a lot fastener R&R as noted above.

 

[vortecd]

I only got 5 OCs with mine. The dealer would give me the oil and filters. I’d do the changes and the dealer would write it like they had done it.

If you got the access panel that a member was selling a while back it’s a piece of cake. If you are original, it’s still not hard. You’ll just have like 19 fasteners instead of 8.

There isn't enough oil to make it worth wild to take off the panel to the oil cooler. Maybe if it is warm doing the change there is some in there but cold, very little

 

[jroyk]

There isn't enough oil to make it worth wild to take off the panel to the oil cooler. Maybe if it is warm doing the change there is some in there but cold, very little

I always drain with the oil fairly hot. I usually get several ounces (6-8?). Four 10mm bolts with a nut driver isn’t much trouble, imo.

But I agree, probably not necessary in the long run.

 

[Hellcatcfp]

I always drain with the oil fairly hot. I usually get several ounces (6-8?). Four 10mm bolts with a nut driver isn’t much trouble, imo.

But I agree, probably not necessary in the long run.

Same here (fairly hot). Will look at it and make my determination. My OCIs are every 3,000 - 4,000 miles so (6-8) ounces on a 7 quart sump probably doesn't make a difference? Probably do it so I can learn and use an RV mod piece to gain easy access going forward. I should have ordered one of those access doors when I had the chance.

 

[BULL]

I like to take that panel off...


...it lets me get in there and wipe everything down with spray detailer...

 

[jroyk]

I like to take that panel off...


...it lets me get in there and wipe everything down with spray detailer...

Where’s that anal emoji reaction?

 

[Diboblo]

Not filter related, but I installed Stahlbus valves, on my Cat. Not enough room, for Fumoto valves. Keeps things tidy, during drain ops.

https://www.stahlbus-us.com/oil-drain-valve/

Also, 67" RaceRamps. Never let me down:

https://www.raceramps.com/garage-service/ramps/race/p/rr-xt/

67" long. 10" high. Shallow approach angle. They also have an approach angle calculator, to find the right ramp, for you.

Not affiliated, with either.

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[drag racer]

Hmmm, well I have two Fumotos on my '16 and they fit just fine - one is shown in Post #30. Need to know the right models to use ;-)

 

[Diboblo]

Hmmm, well I have two Fumotos on my '16 and they fit just fine - one is shown in Post #30. Need to know the right models to use ;-)

Yeah! That looks good.

I considered that model, but went with Stahbus, instead. Ran Fumoto on my 6.1 and the wife's 5.7 Magnum, for years. Figured I'd change things up.

Thanks for sharing.

Bob

 

[Tape]

did this on mine for oil cooler drain access - saves a lot fastener R&R as noted above.

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Do you have a link, I really like that.

 

[drag racer]

This is what I used:

Fumoto F107SX on oil cooler
Fumoto F106SX on oil pan

Cooler access port and rivets - bought from Amazon:

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B076T87Z8Q/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1&psc=1

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DHLK7WE/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1