Is this true? 2026 Durango RT/392 and Hellcat not available in many states?

[BigSwede]

So, because of all this Commie/Socialist political nonsense ... did the did value of my '22 DSRT 392 just go up?

Not in the states that they can sell newer ones without having to pay a carbon tax of gas guzzler tax. In those states it hurt your value because you can buy a new one much cheaper than before. $20k cheaper in the DDHC for example.

 

[1971demon]

Not in the states that they can sell newer ones without having to pay a carbon tax of gas guzzler tax. In those states it hurt your value because you can buy a new one much cheaper than before. $20k cheaper in the DDHC for example.

WTF;;;just Got it...and lookin to bail already...

 

[RetiredFirefighter]

Not in the states that they can sell newer ones without having to pay a carbon tax of gas guzzler tax. In those states it hurt your value because you can buy a new one much cheaper than before. $20k cheaper in the DDHC for example.

Gas Guzzler tax is a Fed thing, and there's no GG tax on any version of the Durango (even the DDHC).
And comparing my DD392, in my state there isn't a used one available within ~100 miles of where I live.

 

[BigSwede]

Gas Guzzler tax is a Fed thing, and there's no GG tax on any version of the Durango (even the DDHC).
And comparing my DD392, in my state there isn't a used one available within ~100 miles of where I live.

I believe you it’s just super confusing how it’s written.

• Gas Guzzler Tax (GGT): This is a federal tax levied on manufacturers of new passenger cars with an unadjusted combined fuel economy below 22.5 mpg. The Dodge Durango SRT 392 and SRT Hellcat trims are subject to this tax. The GGT applies only to passenger cars, so most SUVs, including the V6 and standard V8 Durango models, are exempt.
• Carbon Tax: A carbon tax, or carbon pricing, is a broader policy that sets a price on carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions. While some US states and cities have considered similar policies, none currently apply a direct carbon tax on vehicles. In general, a carbon tax would apply to the combustion of fuels rather than targeting specific inefficient models.

 

[Jimmy N.]

And comparing my DD392, in my state there isn't a used one available within ~100 miles of where I live.

People have started to broaden their horizons and shop out of state(s). I always do nationwide searches when looking for a specific vehicle. It's nice if there's one within 500 miles or so, making it only a 1-day trip, but a few have been bought from 1,000 to 1,600 miles away.

Heck, since there are no dealers within 100 miles of here I couldn't even buy a KIA without exceeding that tiny radius.

 

[1971demon]

People have started to broaden their horizons and shop out of state(s). I always do nationwide searches when looking for a specific vehicle. It's nice if there's one within 500 miles or so, making it only a 1-day trip, but a few have been bought from 1,000 to 1,600 miles away.

Heck, since there are no dealers within 100 miles of here I couldn't even buy a KIA without exceeding that tiny radius.

I'm surprised you can buy a loaf of bread within a "100" miles of where you are..

 

[RetiredFirefighter]

People have started to broaden their horizons and shop out of state(s). I always do nationwide searches when looking for a specific vehicle. It's nice if there's one within 500 miles or so, making it only a 1-day trip, but a few have been bought from 1,000 to 1,600 miles away.

Heck, since there are no dealers within 100 miles of here I couldn't even buy a KIA without exceeding that tiny radius.

I get what you're saying. But CarGurus lists 52 Dodge dealers within 100 miles of me.
I just can't get excited to look farther than that, not even for a DD392.

 

[RetiredFirefighter]

I believe you it’s just super confusing how it’s written.

• Gas Guzzler Tax (GGT): This is a federal tax levied on manufacturers of new passenger cars with an unadjusted combined fuel economy below 22.5 mpg. The Dodge Durango SRT 392 and SRT Hellcat trims are subject to this tax. The GGT applies only to passenger cars, so most SUVs, including the V6 and standard V8 Durango models, are exempt.
• Carbon Tax: A carbon tax, or carbon pricing, is a broader policy that sets a price on carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions. While some US states and cities have considered similar policies, none currently apply a direct carbon tax on vehicles. In general, a carbon tax would apply to the combustion of fuels rather than targeting specific inefficient models.

Yeah, when looked it up I found it a bit confusing as well.
But the original window sticker for my '22 DD392 shows there was no GG tax.

 

[EricG]

I get what you're saying. But CarGurus lists 52 Dodge dealers within 100 miles of me.
I just can't get excited to look farther than that, not even for a DD392.

How is that possible?

 

[Jimmy N.]

I get what you're saying. But CarGurus lists 52 Dodge dealers within 100 miles of me.
I just can't get excited to look farther than that, not even for a DD392.

These days you really can let your fingers do the walking.

Doesn't much matter where the car is, and you can filter options, colors, etc. to keep the list of potential buys shorter.
From there it's only a matter of calling and agreeing on a price, the rest can be handled via email and FedEx. And eventually the transport needs to be arranged, of course.

I'd guess that used ones will end up costing less in a few months once the production of the lower priced '26s begin.

 

[MikeD1]

Yeah, when looked it up I found it a bit confusing as well.
But the original window sticker for my '22 DD392 shows there was no GG tax.

There was no GG tax on my '23 either - purchased in GA & shipped to FL.

 

[1971demon]

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There was no GG tax on my '23 either - purchased in GA & shipped to FL.

I thought all trucks and SUV's were exempt

 

[RetiredFirefighter]

How is that possible?

Good question.

You had me thinking so I went back and checked through CarGurus list, one by one.
Counting only Dodge specific dealers, near my location there are:

• 3 within 10 miles
• 4 within 25 miles
• 10 within 50 miles
• 39 within 100 miles

These days you really can let your fingers do the walking.

Doesn't much matter where the car is, and you can filter options, colors, etc. to keep the list of potential buys shorter.
From there it's only a matter of calling and agreeing on a price, the rest can be handled via email and FedEx. And eventually the transport needs to be arranged, of course.

For a new one maybe. But for a used vehicle, I have to be there and see it.

I'd guess that used ones will end up costing less in a few months once the production of the lower priced '26s begin.

For people living in states where the 2026 DDRT/392 & 2026 DDHC are no longer sold, the price on used one's should hold steady (or maybe even go up?).

 

[Jimmy N.]

For a new one maybe. But for a used vehicle, I have to be there and see it.

For people living in states where the 2026 DDRT/392 & 2026 DDHC are no longer sold, the price on used one's should hold steady (or maybe even go up?).

For me, photos are enough to decide on whether to buy or not. So far I haven't been disappointed. If anything, usually pleasantly surprised instead.

Heck, my latest purchase I hadn't even seen photos of, and after being told I'd get $5K off if taking it "as is" I hooked up the trailer and drove some 500 miles to the dealer. Had it been something I didn't care for I could've simply driven back home again, or negotiated more on the price, but it really exceeded my expectations. It needed tires and the rest of it was near perfect.

I think California Durango prices might hold since that state makes it a hassle, and many aren't motivated enough to jump through the hoops, but in the other "forbidden" states it should be as simple as buying out of state. I see no reason for '25 and earlier Durangos holding their value when new ones will cost quite a bit less than they used to.

Personally, I'm glad that I sold my '23 DDHC when I did (in '23) and I wouldn't be surprised if my '19 V6 will hold or even increase in value now that those aren't readily available anymore.

 

[1971demon]

For me, photos are enough to decide on whether to buy or not. So far I haven't been disappointed. If anything, usually pleasantly surprised instead.

Heck, my latest purchase I hadn't even seen photos of, and after being told I'd get $5K off if taking it "as is" I hooked up the trailer and drove some 500 miles to the dealer. Had it been something I didn't care for I could've simply driven back home again, or negotiated more on the price, but it really exceeded my expectations. It needed tires and the rest of it was near perfect.

I think California Durango prices might hold since that state makes it a hassle, and many aren't motivated enough to jump through the hoops, but in the other "forbidden" states it should be as simple as buying out of state. I see no reason for '25 and earlier Durangos holding their value when new ones will cost quite a bit less than they used to.

Personally, I'm glad that I sold my '23 DDHC when I did (in '23) and I wouldn't be surprised if my '19 V6 will hold or even increase in value now that those aren't readily available anymore.

No reason to buy a 24/25 unless it's REALLY a bargain....those owners are gonna have to keep them for quite a while...

 

[1971demon]

No reason to buy a 24/25 unless it's REALLY a bargain....those owners are gonna have to keep them for quite a while...

And I've never bought used...all have been ordered cars..not sure I'd ever buy sight un seen

 

[Jimmy N.]

Used to buy nothing but used vehicles, starting in '10 it's been ordered ones by a large margin.

In some cases it was a "want it now" that prevented ordering, other times they couldn't be. For example, a '22 Challenger GT AWD in Hellraisin couldn't be ordered in '24. Found one with 178 miles on it, not surprisingly in like new condition

Or a '23 Charger with dually fenders in Granite. Only a few new ones remained about a year ago, nationwide.

 

[BigSwede]

I think California Durango prices might hold since that state makes it a hassle, and many aren't motivated enough to jump through the hoops, but in the other "forbidden" states it should be as simple as buying out of state. I see no reason for '25 and earlier Durangos holding their value when new ones will cost quite a bit less than they used to.

Personally, I'm glad that I sold my '23 DDHC when I did (in '23) and I wouldn't be surprised if my '19 V6 will hold or even increase in value now that those aren't readily available anymore.

I would double check before doing that. YouTuber OC Motivator bought a Hellcat Redeye in Missouri that was 49 state legal and drove it home to California and was unable to get it registered in his state.

 

[MikeD1]

"dually fenders"

No clue why they made them that large, should have been something more subtle, but did like the idea of the larger tires/wheels !!
The 170's having them just on the rear was far more palatable IMO.

 

[Jimmy N.]

I would double check before doing that. YouTuber OC Motivator bought a Hellcat Redeye in Missouri that was 49 state legal and drove it home to California and was unable to get it registered in his state.

That's why I separated California from the other states and mentioned having to jump through hoops there.

Having registered some odd things there I still think it's doable, but if someone on You tube says it's not, who am I to argue such absolute authority?