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New Lower Pulley Idea

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Doesn't do the guys with OD lower pulleys any good lol .

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This overdrives everything, including the accessories too. Not sure what I think about this. I wouldn't personally change any pulley without a tune. I get the idea behind it though. Trying to let guys go back to stock easily and possibly keep a warranty. I'd like to know the numbers on a Redeye out of curiosity as well. It's always great to see new products though!
 


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Doesn't do the guys with OD lower pulleys any good lol .

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Correct. It's for people that are stock and want to try something that they can put back to stock relatively easy.
 


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This overdrives everything, including the accessories too. Not sure what I think about this. I wouldn't personally change any pulley without a tune. I get the idea behind it though. Trying to let guys go back to stock easily and possibly keep a warranty. I'd like to know the numbers on a Redeye out of curiosity as well. It's always great to see new products though!
This is why I am "pushing" the idea of supplemental fuel systems (meth/propane/etc), because they are easily tuned and fully reversible. It is baffling why pulley swaps are acceptable "no tune" mods, yet spraying a small percentage of additional fuel is taboo because a couple of dumbshits windowed their blocks using it.
 


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This overdrives everything, including the accessories too. Not sure what I think about this. I wouldn't personally change any pulley without a tune. I get the idea behind it though. Trying to let guys go back to stock easily and possibly keep a warranty. I'd like to know the numbers on a Redeye out of curiosity as well. It's always great to see new products though!
Agree with you on this but man that is pretty slick and innovative .
 


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needs to be black to give that stealth ability
 


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needs to be black to give that stealth ability
They mention that they will be anodized satin black in the Faceballs post.
 


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@MaxCarnage I think they quoted a RE if you expand the FB insert. Right?
 


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Hmm definitely seems like I would go this route over the upper for sure even though this is like 500 bucks more though. easy install and go back quickly to stock awesome. I mean right at extra 100hp isn't bad at all if someone hunting to make 10s real easy! Asv
 


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@MaxCarnage I think they quoted a RE if you expand the FB insert. Right?
Looks like they did the test on a Hellcat, pump 93 octane and -1100 DA to test and make sure the car didn't need a tune. Ripa said it will gain about 60rwhp in "Normal" DA. If it gains 1.5-2psi and the Redeye is stock around 14.5, you'd be looking at 16psi-16.5psi. Not sure how much you boost is okay with a Redeye on pump gas. I only have access to 92 pump too (Although I'm steering more towards E85).

This is the entire quote from Ripatuned:
Without further ado...

We are proud to announce the @Ripatuned “Incognito” crank dampener sleeve system! We have taken everything into consideration with this direct bolt on crank dampener sleeve to take the labor and modifications out of installing a lower crank pulley on a Hellcat, Demon, Redeye and Trackhawk. True Patented Pending Technology that will be found nowhere else.

Our main goal for this product was obviously Performance (Real world Horsepower and Torque gains) but we obviously had a bunch of other considerations as well. We have successfully designed this product so that there are NO PHYSICAL OR PERMANENT MODIFICATIONS needed to the vehicle for install. NO GRINDING NEEDED.... NO DAMPENER REMOVAL NEEDED and....... NO TUNE NEEDED.

This pulley can be installed with our optional included crank pin kit, or without at your own discretion. Keep in mind, removing the upper supercharger pulley, tuning your car or pinning the crank are all grounds for warranty void, we do none of them with this kit.

This can be EASILY installed by the average DIY mechanic in less than two hours on the first go around.

These billet aluminum “Incognito” sleeves precisely fit directly over your stock engine dampener, and utilizes the center crank bolt and step to properly align. The 3 stock dampener pulley holes are also utilized a-fix the crank pulley sleeve to the lower dampener. The fitment is extremely precise over the OEM dampener with no additional run-out vs stock!

We are seeing a 1.5 to 2psi increase with our crank sleeve, and today we did extensive testing in very cold weather and great DA to check the stock tune. We are still safe on 93 octane at -1000da on a completely stock tune file, we made 13.7 psi with our race intake installed and 13.4 on the stock 2019 intake.

This can be used with the stock upper pulley to be as “incognito” as possible, or with any other upper pulley on the market to increase your boost even further without the labor or modifications that the other crank dampeners on the market require.

Now for the results!!

The results... 749whp on a completely stock 2019 hellcat (redeye/demon style box) and 775whp with our direct feed race intake (which will be released next week) baseline for this car was 659whp.

The Ripatuned “Incognito” crank dampener sleeve kit will include the following:

•Billet Aluminum Black Satin “Incognito” lower crank dampener sleeve
•Gates Supercharger Drive Belt
•Gates Supercharger Accessory belt
•New OEM Crank Bolt for your specific year and model
•Detailed Instructions
•Optional Ripatuned Crank Pin Kit

Introductory pricing the first 30 kits will be 799.99 shipped and 849.99 shipped with crank pin kit. Our “weekend warrior” package will include our direct flow race intake for an additional $350 or $1199 shipped.

775 whp, no required tune and theoretically keep the warranty for you track guys... 1199. Find a better deal, I dare you.

We are looking for a bone stock demon to try this on. If you are interested, please send us a PM, you will be provided with parts at reduced price and labor will be taken care of.

Thank you all for the continued support. We are trying our absolute best to bring you innovative, affordable and easy to install products and help expend the Gen 3 Supercharged hemi
Market. We’re back 😉

Final production in process and will be ready to ship early next week. Final color will be Satin Black for a sleek undetectable look. We can also make these as show if that is your style 😎

*we do not recommend running our direct feed race intake for street use*

*as always, warranty void based on dealer/fca discretion*
 


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@MaxCarnage I think they quoted a RE if you expand the FB insert. Right?
There is this though in the FB posts:

"Steven Ripa Simon Phast Hemi we have tested a redeye, Hellcat and Trackhawk with zero issues. We are looking to a demon to test with the HO button for gains"
 


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oh I guess it says a "(redeye/demon style box)", when I look closer. He started with a pretty healthy HC making 659 rwhp it says.
 


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Many spun cranks sense I do.

Pin it you should.
 


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Many spun cranks sense I do.

Pin it you should.
The revised bolt seems to be doing just fine from what I've read.
 


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Thanks for sharing motorhead. I still be figurin these new formats out. LOL
 


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Now if a stock cat would hypothetically be able to run high 10.3x or low 10.4x's I would be curious what this may do for said hypothetical Cat.
That may have 2 more yrs of warranty.
 


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Many spun cranks sense I do.
Pin it you should.
Still no evidence of the thousands of claimed spun cranks...
(not saying pinning isn't winning, just that the scare is bigger than the tangible failures)
 


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The revised bolt seems to be doing just fine from what I've read.
The new bolt is a secret transmitter put there by the government to control our thoughts and minds . That's why there was a big scare with the original bolt so everyone would run out and but the new one!


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Still waiting for all the proof the new bolt is a smoking gun here.

you're not magically changing tolerances or fitment between crank and balancer and there are no other means physically binding the 2 together besides such.

You could put a bolt made of unobtainium in there and if it's a Friday at 4:30 motor on the Mexican peninsula? Bye bye motor.
 




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